Episode 67

Sex, Hugs & Mexico City

Kevin Ahern has hosted sex parties in Berkeley, been to Burning Man fifteen times, and moved to Mexico for a woman he met in a dental office. These days, you might find him at a Mexico City punk club holding a sign offering free hugs.

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Transcript
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I met this guy at Burning Man who was Cuban American, and

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he lived in Mormon country.

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Wow.

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I met him at his kissing booth.

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He built a kissing booth.

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Okay.

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And we started talking about how I give sex parties in San Francisco.

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Mm. Right, right.

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So we decided to give sex parties at Burning Man- Sure, why not?

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… and he got an old RV, ripped everything out except the bathroom- Okay

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and the driver's seat, and placed mattresses on it.

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And we were, we were giving sex parties there for a while.

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This is episode 67 of onefjef Episode 67.

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Episode 67

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Once again, my friends, hola de nuevo, mis amigos.

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¿Cómo estás?

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¿Está bien?

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I hope, as I always do, that you yourself are thriving.

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Whatever that means to you in this life, I hope that it is happening.

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I, unfortunately, am not thriving at the moment.

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I have a strange illness.

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For the last, like, five days, I've had this weird headache

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and more profound tinnitus or tinnitus, however you pronounce it.

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It should be pronounced tinnitus, ringing in the ears than I usually do.

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I normally have a little bit of tinnitus.

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Comes and goes.

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Too many Nine Inch Nails concerts when I was younger, I imagine.

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Anyway, the, the ringing was quite loud, and the headache was kind

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of concerning and also just this feeling of feeling not myself.

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I couldn't put a finger on it.

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It wasn't like I was sick, like a cold, but I just wasn't feeling myself.

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And it started to really worry me when I was in a yoga class yesterday, and

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the ringing really got quite loud, and the headache started to get quite worse.

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And I can attribute a lot of this to the fact that I was doing yoga

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and focusing on my body, so these feelings obviously became more intense.

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Nevertheless, it was a little scary.

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So I thought, "I have to go to the doctor at this point," which as an expat here

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in Mexico City, isn't as simple as it is if I was living in the United States.

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Fortunately, I have a Mexican girlfriend who's possibly one of the most generous

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and kind, wonderful human beings that I've ever met in my life, and she

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offered to take me to the doctor today.

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So last night, I found a doctor, like a GP, online fairly nearby, and I used

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his website to make an appointment.

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It was very easy, a, a lot like making an appointment with a doctor

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in the United States, to be honest.

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So I made an appointment for ten in the morning, and at ten this

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morning, we went to this doctor's office, and, uh, he was not there.

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So we waited for about 20 minutes, and then the secretary

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or the receptionist came in.

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Uh, Este asked her where the doctor was, and she said she didn't

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know, and she tried to call him.

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He didn't answer, so she tried to text him.

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He didn't respond, so after about a half an hour, we just left.

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I was like, "Well, screw this.

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Let's just leave.

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This is ridiculous." So instead, we just went to a pharmacy doctor, which

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I think I mentioned this before.

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Many of the pharmacies here in Mexico have a doctor attached to them, like a

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do- little doctor's office attached to the pharmacy, which is very convenient because

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you can just get your doctor appointment, and then he, they prescribe medications.

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You can go right into the pharmacy and get them.

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I'm a little skeptical of the quality of a doctor who works in a office attached to

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a pharmacy, but I needed to see a doctor.

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So we go to the pharmacy, we wait for about 10 minutes.

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You have to get a number or whatever.

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We go in, and this doctor, it's a woman who just retired from her practice.

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She's lovely.

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She's so charming and funny.

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I don't speak very much Spanish, but what I did understand seemed very charming.

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As Dee said, she was lovely.

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Checked me over, looked in my throat, said, "Oh, you have an infection." So

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she prescribed me some, uh, antibiotics and some other medication with, like,

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a decongestant or something in there.

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Then we went next door to the pharmacy, got the medications for I think it

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was 300 pesos, which is about $15 for two medications, and that was it.

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And now I'm taking the medication.

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And while I don't feel better quite yet, I feel like I will feel better tomorrow.

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Perhaps that's just my head telling me something that I want

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to happen, but this is what it is.

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But at the moment, my ears are still ringing, and my head still hurts a

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little bit, and I haven't done much today except for lie around and edit

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this podcast My guest in this episode is the last of the interviews that

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I got from posting on Facebook when I first got here to Mexico City.

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So that's exciting for me.

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I mean, not for you perhaps, but it does give you some context.

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This interview was recorded, I believe, in April of this year when

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I was still living in Roma Sur, and I was still relatively fresh.

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And this interview is with Kevin Ahern, and it's a very interesting interview.

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Kevin came to Mexico City to get some dental work done about three or four years

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ago, and he fell in love with the dentist and moved to Mexico City as a result.

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And the rest of his story is just as interesting and unique, so I think

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you're really gonna enjoy it, as I say with every interview that I release,

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but it's always true, so there you go.

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That's right, it's Este, and it's also my very first Patreon subscriber in pesos.

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So I mean, two for one.

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Thank you very much, Este.

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Please and thank you.

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And thank you to all my continuing subscribers.

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You are the best.

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And before I get into this conversation, a quick trigger warning.

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We do talk about sex parties and some other things that may not be

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appropriate for younger people.

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So if you're a younger people, turn this off or don't.

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It depends on how you feel about, you know, if you want to regulate

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yourself, do what you want to do.

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But I feel obligated to say something like that because we do.

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So thank you for listening.

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Thank you for being here.

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Here's Kevin Ahern explaining how to pronounce his name.

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Everybody pronounces it Ahern Ahern, but it's pronounced Ahern But my dad had

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a business, and he said, "Let's change it," and he wrote it A-apostrophe,

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capital H-E-R-N, and pronounced it Ahern.

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So I grew up with Ahern, and that's how I pronounce it.

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Huh.

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But everybody else pronounces that Ahern.

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Well, I'll pronounce it properly.

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Uh, Kevin Ahern is here.

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I do not know Kevin Ahe- Ahern aside from our interaction

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on the, uh, Facebook, was it?

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Facebook.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So thanks for coming over, all the way over to, uh, the corner of Tonala

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y Aguascalientes to Big Blue House.

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So thanks for coming over.

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Okay.

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Glad to be here.

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Sorry.

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I've had a weird day.

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Um, Kevin, how did you end up in Mexico City?

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Actually, it's a nice little story.

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Um, three years ago, I was living in Oakland, California- Okay … right next

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to Berkeley, and I needed a dentist.

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And, uh, I'm a traveler, so I decided to… I needed a lot of work done,

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so I decided to come to Mexico City- Right … to get it done.

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I needed about three weeks done.

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And, um, I, I looked for a dentist with 50 five-star reviews, and the closest

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one to me, I knocked on the door, and it turned out to be this beautiful

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woman with tattoos and piercings.

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Huh.

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My type of woman.

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And we were laughing together for 30 minutes.

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Right.

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And I wanted to find out if she was married, but I didn't wanna say that,

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so I said, "Do you have any kids?"

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And she said, "Nope, no kids, no boyfriend, just me and

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my dogs." She rescues dogs.

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Right, right, right.

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She had seven dogs.

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And then I made a joke.

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I said, "Will you marry me?" And, and she said, "Why not?" Uh, but then she

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became my girlfriend for two years.

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Wow.

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And, um, I moved down here, and my first tattoo, you can see it on my

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forearm here, is Por Que No- Mm-hmm

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which is why not in Spanish.

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Yeah, love it.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

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So did you get dental work done from her office?

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Did I get what?

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The dental work.

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You were going for dental work, weren't you?

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, I have terrible teeth.

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Yeah, me too.

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And, um, so I got three weeks then, but I s- she was my girlfriend

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for two years, and now she's not my girlfriend, but she's my good

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friend, and she's still my dentist.

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Oh, wow, how about that?

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How long ago did you meet?

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When was the, the meeting, the first meeting?

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Three years ago.

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Okay.

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So two years my girlfriend, one year not my girlfriend.

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Right.

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And then you guys moved to Mexico?

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Or how'd you end up coming to Mexico?

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Well, I came here for a dentist So did you, you, you got the dental work done.

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Did you ever go back?

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Or did you go back and pack up and then you come back here?

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Uh, basically I've been living here for, for three years.

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Okay Yeah And what part of, uh, Mexico did you originally move to?

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To Mexico City?

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I moved to, uh, Centro.

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Okay.

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And what was it like?

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I mean, had you been to Mexico before?

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You said you're a traveler.

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Yeah, I'm a traveler.

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And actually, um, I've been to Mexico, like, when I was 23.

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Yeah I hitchhiked down here with some girl I met at Mardi Gras.

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Ah, that'll do it.

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Yeah, yeah And, uh, and then when I was about 40, I met a crazy Mexican.

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Mm. And, um, six weeks later she was pregnant, so I married her- Mm

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because I wanted to make sure she didn't run off with my kid.

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Right, right, right And, uh, so yeah, I've had a lot of experience in Mexico.

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Right, so this wasn't your first rodeo, as it were.

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Yeah Right.

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Right.

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Right Yeah, yeah.

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So you already kind of knew what to expect, right?

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You'd stayed- Kind of … here for a long period of time, right?

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Yeah.

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The first time you came here, when, how old were you the first time?

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You remember the first time?

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I was, like, 23 or something like that.

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All right.

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All right Yeah And where'd you go?

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What part of Mexico?

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Pfft.

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Don't know?

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You know what?

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Don't remember?

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I'm old.

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Well, so am I. And I was joking- You know, we're both getting- I was

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joking with my friend, uh, that I grew up with in high school, and,

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uh, we're both like, "Yeah, memory is not what it used to be," you know?

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Yeah, I, I feel the same way.

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So I don't know.

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Yeah.

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Uh, I've got a passport full of stamps from all over the world, and I'm like,

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"Wait, I was in the Dominican Republic? What? I don't remember it." Yeah, and

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they're getting rid of passport stamps- Yeah … so you won't have that anymore.

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That sucks.

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You know, they're g- not gonna stamp 'em anymore.

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They're phasing that out.

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Really?

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Which to me sucks, 'cause that's part of the fun is getting the stamps- That's

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true … you know, where you've been.

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Yeah All over the world?

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Yeah.

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I mean, I don't know.

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I just read it- Yeah … on the internet, so it has to be true, because everything-

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That's new to me … everything on the internet is true Mexico's got a

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system where they don't have a record of your entry stamps if you came

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over the border by land, but- Huh

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it's, so the only digital record they have is if you come in by the airport.

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Huh.

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So the best way to come in is by land.

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When was the first time you actually moved here to live for

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a significant period of time?

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That was the first time.

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Okay Other times it was just traveling.

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Just traveling through?

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Yeah.

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All right.

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Um, and so I guess the, the same questions, like, how,

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how was it adapting to Mexico?

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How was it?

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What was surprising?

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What, you know, w- uh, was hard, et cetera, et cetera?

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Hmm.

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I guess I don't think in those terms.

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Okay.

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You know, Mexican culture is different.

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Mm-hmm.

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I have this hobby.

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Uh, it's the thing that makes me the most happy.

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Every night I go for a run.

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Okay.

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Uh, and I'm in Centro, and it's a beautiful neighborhood, and the

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most, the most photographed place in all of Mexico for Mexicans

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is the Palacio de Bellas Artes.

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Oh, right.

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Of course.

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It's a beautiful building.

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Of course.

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And so I run there, I run back, and on the way back there's a

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street called Walking Street.

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Hmm.

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Um, Madero.

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About a year ago I was in Zócalo, which is at the other end of the Walking Street.

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That's another historic center.

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And these people had these signs, "Free hugs," and they gave me one.

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Uh-huh.

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And I like hugs, and I forgot- Sure … about it for about nine months.

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But then a few months ago I started, I made my own signs and

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started hugging people on Madero.

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And it's the thing that makes me- Stole their business model … the most happy.

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And it's not just the hugs.

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People come up with this huge smile.

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I'm sure.

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I'm sure Like, this makes me happy.

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And one of the differences I noticed is people will come up with their kids

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just walking past, and I'll hunch down to the kids' level and show the sign,

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and Mexican people will s- send their little kid over, "Go hug the man."

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They won't even come up for a hug, but that would never happen

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in America, I don't think.

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No, no.

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You'd be in jail probably for some of that.

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Yes.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Well, it's a much more, um, affectionate and, uh, I, I mean, I always say it

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on, but the vibes are just better here.

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I agree.

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I agree.

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There's, people are so much nicer- And-

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and yeah.

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Yeah … and, like, people walk hand-in-hand- Mm-hmm … even

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though they're not romantic.

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Right.

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Right.

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They're just like they're with their friend or- Yeah … put their

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arm around each other and stuff.

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Yeah.

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It's nice.

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I like that.

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Yeah.

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Well, I lived in Mexico, or in, uh, South Korea rather, like 30 years ago,

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and, you know, men would hold hands with men because homosexuality wasn't

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even a consideration there at the time-

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right?

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So it was like- Right.

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Right … um, but one time one of my directors at the school I was working at

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just started walking down the street and kind of grabbed my hand, and, you know,

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I let him do it for a little while, but, like, I thought about it and I was like,

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you know, the last person to hold my hand probably, man, was probably my father.

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Probably.

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So it's like there's now been two.

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You're the second.

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Right?

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That's not right.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Anyway, um, different strokes, different folks, as it were.

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Um, so how long have you been here?

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Do you feel like, all told, have you been here… Do you

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miss anything in the States?

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Do you go back a lot?

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Um, let's see Do you still got family in the States or anything?

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Yeah, I've got some brothers.

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And, um, I had money when I came here.

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Okay.

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Although I had an accident, and I got $45,000 on it.

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And I'm, I, I'm good with giving things away, but I'm not good with saving money.

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Right, right, right.

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I understand.

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So, so it's all gone now.

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And, um, I don't think I wanna tell you the story of how I, I'm- Por que no?

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Por que no?

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… how I'm an illegal immigrant right now.

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Oh.

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But basically- Yeah … I'm overdue, and, uh, so I haven't

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been able to s- Oh, you overstayed?

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Yeah, yeah.

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Okay.

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And I have a lawyer.

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I'm applying for permanent residency.

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Right, right, right.

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And we're, we're working on it.

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Um, so one of the things I miss, going back to the United States, is

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because my hearing is going bad- Mm-hmm

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it's nice to, uh… It's not always bad with, um, people from the United States.

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It's still- Right … bad with some, but with others I can hear them perfectly,

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and it's harder with somebody who speaks Spanish- Yeah … as a first language,

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and they've- Right … got an accent.

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It's hard for me- Right … to understand it.

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Do you speak Spanish?

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No.

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No?

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Not at all?

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No.

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Well, uh, yo hablo poquito español, pero entiendo malo.

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Si, si.

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I, I studied Spanish for an hour every day for three years at least,

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and, um, after that three years I could speak a little Spanish.

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I could talk about my work for five or 10 minutes, and I could tell

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the story of meeting my girlfriend.

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Oh, that, that's pretty good.

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And I couldn't understand one single sentence.

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Yeah, that's part of my problem right now, is that I have real trouble

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understanding what people say to me.

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Ah, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So I've got a new plan now.

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And the new plan is 24 hours a day, think in Spanish, talk to people

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in Spanish, and, uh, and, uh, maybe in a year I'll understand Spanish.

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Right.

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You're supposed to even change your phone language to Spanish.

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That's what they say you should do.

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There's a lot of things I've tried.

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Yeah.

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That seems excessive to me And the thing is, I came up with this idea on

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January 8th of, and, and I thought, "That's a good idea." And I did it

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for about five days, then I completely forgot about it for two months.

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Right.

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Then it was March, and I did it again for four days, and I forgot about it.

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And recently I, I was like, "Fuck, I'm never gonna learn Spanish." Um,

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but I also did another thing where I said, "I need to hire somebody to just

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talk to me in Spanish- Yeah … who speaks English, and maybe pick up

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my, um, my skills at listening."

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And then, um, and when I did, then I remembered, "Oh yeah, 24 hours a day." So

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I'm on my fourth day of 24 hours a day.

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And hopefully- Except for right now, right … hopefully this time it'll work.

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Right.

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Right, right.

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Hopefully it'll work.

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I hope this isn't f- fucking it up because we're speaking in English

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now, so it's, you're missing an hour from the 24 hours a day.

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No, I like talking to people in English still, but- Yeah, yeah.

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I understand … the rest of the day try to think in Spanish.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

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And I need a new girlfriend.

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And I'm old.

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I'm old.

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I'm in my 70s.

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Right.

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Right, right.

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My girlfriend was 30.

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Oh, wow.

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32. Right, right.

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And, uh, beautiful, sexy, and she was, um, had a wonderful heart.

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Mm. And, uh, that's not gonna happen again.

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I was just a lucky man for- Well, you know, never, never say never So, and the

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older women don't speak Spanish very much.

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Or Eng- English.

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Or, or excuse me, they don't speak English very much.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Well, never say never, my friend.

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Never say never.

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We'll see.

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Um, what's, uh, what's your favorite thing about living in Mexico?

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Hmm.

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Or one of the things.

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You don't have to give me the number one thing, right?

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Well, I like the warmth.

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Yeah.

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I like the touchy stuff.

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I like the, um- I like it that it's cheaper here- Okay … 'cause I get

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about 30,000 a year from my pension and my, and my Social Security.

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So that's not enough to live good in the United States- No … but

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I can live pretty good here.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, for sure.

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For sure, yeah.

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What's the, what are the things that drive you the most crazy about Mexico?

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Let's see.

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I don't know that stuff drives me crazy about it, but, uh, I learned some things.

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I learned, like, sometimes people are late a lot.

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Oh, yeah, yeah.

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Ahorita.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

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And, uh, I learned, um, there's a club that I go to.

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Okay.

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And I, I kinda recently learned this.

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So a friend told, told me about this club, and it's a punk metal club.

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Mm-hmm.

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Right, right.

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It was a very underground kind of place, and the surprising thing is, uh, these

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people are, are more likely there to meet somebody who speaks English- Hmm

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and is a nice person, is an interesting person, have a good conversation with

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them- Right … at that punk club than I would in one night there than

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I would in two months on the street.

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Yeah.

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So I go there for the people.

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When I was in, in the 1990s, I lived in a punk rock warehouse- Okay … in

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Oakland, and I learned how to slam dance, and I like all kinds of dance,

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but I don't go there for the dance.

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I go there for the people.

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And, uh, the last month or two, I've been holding up the hug signs, too.

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So yeah, you were talking about meeting people this way.

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I meet people all the time with those hug signs there.

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I'm sure.

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I'm sure.

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And, um, but people, uh, you know, people are very touchy.

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Mm-hmm.

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And a few weeks ago I found out, uh, because it happened twice in one night.

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It's like I hug somebody, and then I put my arm on 'em, and I go in

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for a conversation, and twice in one night, one guy says, "That's his

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girlfriend." And I thought, "Okay, that… Uh, yeah, whatever." All right.

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All right.

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And then another guy got really mad at me, and people don't usually get mad at me.

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Sure.

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I'm a nice guy.

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He's like, "What are you doing touching my girlfriend like that?" So I learned.

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Now, when I meet girls there, I go, "Is this your boyfriend? Oh, where's

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your boyfriend?" And I start there.

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Mm-hmm.

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And then, uh, then deal with that.

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Always the m- But that's just me learning the culture, you know?

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Right.

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Right, right.

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Always the… Yeah.

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I actually got kicked out of a place, um, about a year ago.

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It wasn't that place.

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I was just in some place, and I was drinking, and I'm talking to some

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girl, and I put my hand on her knee.

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And the next thing I know, security is coming, go, "Uh, sir," "you need

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to leave." And I'm thinking I'm just being a physical- Right, right, right

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person with Mexicans.

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But you gotta learn.

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I'm sitting there thinking, "It's so nice the way you can just touch people

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in Mexico." And that, and later that night… And two security guards come

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up, "Sir, you have to leave." Ah.

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So it didn't work out with the girl?

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What?

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It didn't work out with the girl then?

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Oh, well, the thing is, you know, my girlfriend was 40

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years younger than me- Mm

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and beautiful and had a wonderful heart and sexy, and now I have this,

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uh, idea that women that age are attracted to me, but they're not.

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I mean, handfuls probably are.

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I mean, the, everybody takes all different kinds, right?

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We'll see.

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You know?

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We'll see.

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Who knows?

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Who knows?

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I was a lucky man to have her for two years.

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People are like, "Why did you break up?" I go, "Look at this picture of her.

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Wonderful, sexy, wonderful heart.

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That's the wrong question.

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The question should be, how did I ever get so lucky that she was

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with me for two years?" Sure.

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Sure, sure.

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She was finished with it in a couple of years.

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Well, you got a good couple years out of it at least.

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I mean, that's- It was wonderful … better than, better

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than no years at all, right?

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Yeah, yeah.

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I've been polyamorous most of my life.

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Oh, have you really?

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Yeah.

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In what way?

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Like, you have more than one partner, or you're doing like, uh, you know, uh, sex

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clubs, so forth and so on, and- Yeah, I never had the… There's, like, different

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variations of sleeping with different people, and for me, it was just I was

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honest that I had different relationships.

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Right.

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And, um, uh, then there's swingers, and swingers are like, "We're together, but

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we also play with other people." Right.

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Right.

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And, uh, so that, that wasn't me.

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I was never like that.

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And, um, and when I lived in San Francisco- Um, uh, I knew a lot

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of people who wrote books about sexuality- Right … and, uh, wild

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clubs, and I, I, um, I actually gave sex parties in San Francisco.

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Oh, you hosted them?

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I hosted sex parties.

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What did you, what did you call them?

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What was- What was- Did, did they have a title?

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What were they called?

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Oh, different things.

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I forget Oh, that's okay I forget.

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But there was one when I was, when I was … U- UC Berkeley has really smart kids.

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Mm-hmm And I lived really close to it.

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S- supposedly one of the top 10 universities, and the only

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public university in the top 10.

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Mm. And I was walking down the street one day, uh, near Berkeley campus, and I was

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talking to this tall half-Asian student.

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Mm-hmm.

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And Berkeley has a thing where you can take … You can make up your

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own course, or a teacher can make up their own course, and you can

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get 20 units out of this- Right

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part of the university.

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Right And one of their courses was female sexuality.

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And, uh, so we're talking and I said, "Oh, I know the person

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who wrote that book." Right.

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And her eyes got big, and she was, you know, she was taking this female sexuality

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course, and so she was impressed.

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And she and I wound up giving what I call, uh, sex parties for college girls

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and their friends when I was in my 50s.

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Wow.

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Well done with that.

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And we called them tantra sexuality parties or something.

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Yeah, yeah.

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You gotta dress it up a little bit.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Um, make it tantric adds, like, a level of, like, yoga and so forth, so it's

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not a- Yeah … just … Yeah, yeah.

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How many people would come to these parties?

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Uh, usually, uh, like, 30 or something like that.

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Yeah.

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And did you know them all, or was it just random people?

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Oh, no, no.

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We'd have flyers come to the- Oh, you'd have flyers up?

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Wow … come to the party.

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And would you have this at your house?

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Um, I had a house in, right near Berkeley, and I think I

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had one or two parties there.

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All right.

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Um, and, um, also gave them at Burning Man.

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Okay.

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I met this guy at Burning Man who was Cuban American, and

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he lived in Mormon country.

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Wow.

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I met him at his kissing booth.

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He built a kissing booth.

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Okay.

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And we started talking about how I give sex parties in San Francisco.

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Mm. Right, right.

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And he got very interested, and what he was good at, he

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was good at fixing anything.

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So we decided to give sex parties at Burning Man.

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Sure, why not?

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And he, um, got an old RV, ripped everything out except the bathroom-

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Okay … and the driver's seat, and placed mattresses on it.

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And we were, we were giving sex parties there for a while.

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I've never been to a sex party.

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I'm just wondering, like, so people just show up, and then there's

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I, I'm assuming, like, mingling, maybe drinks for a while.

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Is there a certain point at which everybody, you're like, "Okay,

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now it's time for sex," or?

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No, it's not a certain point.

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Okay.

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It's like, first of all, if you're a man- Uh, you can't come unless

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you're accompanied by a woman Oh, okay Because otherwise it would be

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90 guys and- Right, right, right

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three women That's, that's valid, yeah Yeah, yeah You gotta bring a woman,

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yeah And, um, so people come in and they start looking at each other and

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hook up And so everybody comes clothed, but by the end of it, is, are most

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people not wearing clothes anymore?

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A lot of people.

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Yeah, most people.

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Right Yeah And how do you know when the party…

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I mean, I guess there's obvious… But how do you know when the

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party's over, as it were?

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Well, you, you set a time.

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It's like- Okay … doors open at 9:00, close at 2:00 or whatever.

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Huh.

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Huh.

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Did anything weird ever happen at one of these things that you remember?

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Anything, any kind of a crazy story from any of them?

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Uh, it doesn't seem weird to me, no Right, right, right No, no No, no babies that

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we know came out of these sex parties?

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No what?

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No babies No babies that we come, you know Who knows?

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You know, I think, uh, if I remember, it's, like, bring your own condoms

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and lube or whatever Lube Something like that Bring your own con- That,

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that should be the name of the thing.

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Bring your own condoms Yeah BYOC and L. Yeah And I had an interesting experience

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with, um, the parties with, that I gave with the, with the tall Asian

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student Uh-huh There's another thing in Berkeley where they have regular

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student housing, and then they have this group of, like, I don't know, 13

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or 15 student houses that are kinda run by their students All right So they're

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more alternative Right And she lived in the one that was the most alternative.

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It was called Lothlorien, and it had, um, uh, they ate vegetarian

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food Okay And I was a vegetarian.

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And it was like the hippie co-op, and they had a, a hot tub on the property, uh,

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where you could get naked on the property Right And, um, and I met a girl there.

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I was in my 50s, and I met a girl there who was a serious, uh, mathematics major,

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and she thought the guys her own age were not, not very impressive Right She became

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my- And you agreed, yes She became one of my- Right She became one of my lovers.

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And then the other thing is th- they had a rule that you didn't

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have to be a Berkeley student.

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You just had to be a student anywhere Oh, of course And at the time, I

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was a student getting a master's degree in nursing, so I was eligible.

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So I signed up to live there, and, um, and meanwhile, I lived at my

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own house, but I would stay there.

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And at the beginning of the year, uh, all the people in this, uh, hippie co-op house

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would choose their partners to share rooms with Okay And if you'd been there for

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three years, maybe you'd get your own room Right But there weren't that many rooms.

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Most people were sharing, and nobody wanted to be with me.

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And finally, uh, I was the last person picked by some guy, and, uh,

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I wasn't bothered by that, but he dropped out after a month So you got

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your own room So I had my own room.

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And, um, so this blonde mathematics major who's my girl Um, she says,

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uh, "Can we hang out tonight now in your room?" And it was, like, 2:00 in

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the morning or something like that.

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Mm. And I said, "Man, I gotta get up in five hours and do this stuff."

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And then she says, "Could I please just give you a blowjob?" Wow.

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And I'm like … And she was, her blowjobs were like, she was

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proud- Mm … of her blowjobs.

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Mm. I'm like, "Oh, okay. Yeah." Huh.

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So that's a good memory.

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How long did that one last, that relationship?

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How long, how long did that relationship last?

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How did you … How long … Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Um, like a year or something like that.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So you lived most of your life in the States, yeah?

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In California?

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Yeah, I never lived somewhere else- Right, until now … uh, oh, half my life in

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Chicago and half my life in California.

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Oh, okay.

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Right on.

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Yeah.

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Right on.

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Yeah.

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I grew up in Ohio.

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Yeah, but I never lived in another country until now.

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Wow.

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So I mean, it's a good political time to get out of the country, for sure,

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but are there things about the United States that you, uh, that you miss?

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Well, like you said, I miss, you know, I miss, uh, being able to understand

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people's English better- Sure, sure

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people who speak English.

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Yeah, that's a big one, yeah.

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Um, m- I'm not, I'm not feeling like I miss a lot of stuff.

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Right.

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Do you ever think you'll go back?

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Would I ever go back?

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Yeah.

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You know, um, I don't think I could afford to live there the way I want to,

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but- I mean, that's the thing, right?

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I went to Burning Man 15 times.

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Oh, really?

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Yeah.

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But back in the day or any recently?

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Uh- Like, do you go… Like, the new ones, I've heard it, they're not as

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good as it used to be, is what I'm told.

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Uh, mostly, mostly in the 2000s, like mostly in the last 25

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years- Okay … I went there.

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And, um, they've got a thing where some people show up in the

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desert a month before Burning Man.

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Right.

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And, uh, so I th- I thought I might go there for a month and, and just

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hang out at Burning Man for a while.

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Huh.

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In the desert?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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How'd that go?

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What?

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How'd it go?

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No, I, I thought I might do that.

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Oh, but you didn't do it?

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No, I haven't done it.

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Oh.

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I've been broke.

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I've been too broke, and also this thing where I'm technically an

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illegal immigrant, my, my lawyer says, "Don't leave the country.

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Don't, don't take a long bus trip." Right.

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"And of course, don't go to the airport, 'cause you'll get

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caught." So I'm waiting on that.

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And, um, but- I actually have to, I have some business I have to take

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care of in the United States, so I'm gonna go visit my brother and my old

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friend- All right … in Florida.

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So- Yeah

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we'll see what happens then.

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For sure.

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Why did you, why'd you overstay your visa?

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You just didn't get a chance to leave, or what happened?

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Okay.

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Well, I guess I can talk about this because nobody's gonna listen to this-

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I don't think that the- … all the way through just to find- … Mexican

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government's going to listen to this

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just to catch me.

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So- No, I don't think so … here's the story.

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About two years ago, I had ru- I had spent all my money.

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Mm-hmm.

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And you need to leave every six months, and, um, and I was

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not looking forward to this.

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I was planning on taking a bus for 13 hours to- Right … the tip of Texas.

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Right.

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Stay there for one day, take a bus 13 hours back.

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I was not happy about it, and I was supposed to leave on a Sunday.

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Right.

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So I live in a hostel, and I meet this guy who's from Spain, but he,

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uh, teaches tantric sexuality in Guadalajara- Oh … for six years.

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Look at that.

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And he says… So we had a lot in common to talk about, and, uh, he said

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he was in Mexico City 'cause he had to deal with some immigration stuff.

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Okay.

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So on Friday morning, he says t- the weekend that I'm supposed to leave

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on Sunday, he says to me, "Oh, okay, I gotta go take my ca- care of my

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immigration stuff." And I go, "Oh, so you're going to the immigration

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government building?" Mm-hmm.

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He goes, "No, I'm going to Starbucks." I go, "Starbucks?" He goes, "Yeah, I've

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been doing this for last few years.

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I go there, I meet a guy.

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I slip him my passport with 1,400 pesos.

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He comes back in an hour, and it's stamped." Uh-huh.

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Uh-huh.

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So I said, "Can I go, too?" And he, he said, "Let me check with him." He says,

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"Yeah, come on." So we go to Starbucks.

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This guy comes up.

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He s- he says, "I don't, I, I don't know what this guy looks like because it's not

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the same guy, but I'll recognize him."

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So he recognized him.

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Mm-hmm.

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And we slipped this guy our passports.

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He comes back in an hour, beautiful stamp, and then he opens his arms

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wide, and he goes, "Bienvenidos a Mexico. Welcome to Mexico." Right.

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Uh- I'm- So I'm illegal that way … right.

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So your concern, so the, e- but even the stamp that he gave you

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was, was, you've run that over.

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You know what I mean?

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Like, if you leave, they're gonna see your passport.

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Do you think they'll recognize the fake stamp?

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Well, that was a couple years ago.

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Oh, all right.

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All right.

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And then I got a lawyer to apply for permanent residency.

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Right.

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He's… So he just said, "Don't travel around a lot."

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Yeah, probably for the best.

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Yeah.

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Um, how much did you pay for the stamp?

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How much- $70 … wow It's a good deal.

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I don't wanna do that, of course, but I'm just saying.

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Yeah.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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Maybe he'll advertise on the podcast.

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I overstayed my visa one time in Korea, and it was only

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by, like, a week and a half.

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Uh, but they took me into this, the r- you know, there's a room next to passport

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control where all the bad people go.

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I was in that room.

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Oh.

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Yeah, but they just asked me a bunch of questions and then said, "Go,

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go, go." So that was nice of them.

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I think I'm gonna, when I leave, I'm gonna pay a $50 fine, but I don't know- Probably

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… how I'm gonna get back in, so- Right … that's a question I'll figure out in June.

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Right.

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An interesting conundrum really.

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Are you worried?

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No, no.

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I mean, I don't … What are they gonna do?

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Yeah.

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They might just not let you come back, would be my concern.

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Yeah, and then maybe I'll do the Tijuana route or something like that- Yeah, yeah

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… where it's easier to get in that way.

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W- I'll figure it out later.

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There's- Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, you'll figure it out.

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I'm gonna just try to fly back in and see if they go like, "Okay, you overstayed

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last time. Don't do it again." But- Right … if that doesn't work, I'll

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go through Tijuana or some land route.

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Or you can just lose your passport.

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Although, I'm sure they have a record of it.

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Yeah.

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Lose your- I don't know.

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Yeah, I don't know either.

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Anyway, do you wanna, uh, talk about your- My work?

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Your work, yeah.

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Tell me about your work.

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Yeah.

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So I'm retired, and all my life I've had projects to help people.

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Mm. So I was in the Philippines.

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I was trying to start a yoga center for poor people where they could go for free.

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For a few years I was teaching people a system where it's very simple,

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and I used it with my daughter.

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Um, you can teach a nine-month-old how to read.

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I waited until she was two because it was even simpler when she was two.

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Oh.

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By the time she was five, she could read at an eighth-grade level, and

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when she was 11, I, I enrolled her in a community college course, uh, when she

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was 11, um, which I always was proud of.

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Huh.

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And then she came to visit me, um, uh, last year, and she goes, "It was horrible.

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I was 11 years old around all these old people." So, but it's very easy.

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So I've always had these project.

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I sta- in Chicago, I guess it was, yeah, we started … Me and some friends started

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a alternative high school- Okay … where we got kids who were having problems

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in high school, and we got this, uh, nun principal from a Catholic school

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who gave us degrees from her school.

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Hmm.

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And we had a few kids.

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Right, right.

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And we … I did that for a few years.

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So my project now is I teach doctors and patients how to usually very

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quickly cure all kinds of diseases by eating a plant-based diet.

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Hmm.

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And, uh, basically, the way it works is if you eat a completely vegan,

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zero animal products, and low fat, so no oil, diet, it quickly cures,

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uh, if you've already had two strokes or two heart attacks or- Mm-hmm

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bypass surgeries, you never have another one for the rest of your life.

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Right.

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Um, if you have d- diabetes type 2, high blood pressure gets cured

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within a few days to a few weeks.

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It cures fibromyalgia.

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It cures arthritis.

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It has a huge effect on cancer, and, uh, it also cures about 20 other diseases:

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multiple sclerosis, lupus- Mm-hmm

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bronchial asthma, um- Uh, it improves your outcome for COPD, chronic

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obstructive- Mm … pulmonary disease.

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98 and 100% cure rate for colitis and Crohn's.

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Hmm.

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It makes your menopause better.

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It makes your PMS better.

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There's just all these d- there's like 20 different things.

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Oh, wow.

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I can't eat any nuts, so it's, vegan's a difficult thing because

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it's a lot of nuts, you know?

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You- … get a lot of protein from, you know, nuts and legumes.

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Actually, all plants have, uh, protein, carbohydrate, and fat in them in a mix.

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Mm-hmm.

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The only foods that don't have protein and carbohydrate and fat in

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them are oil, which is pure fat, and sugar, which is pure carbohydrate.

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Every other plant food is a mix.

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Mm. The percentage of calories from ordinary green lettuce

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that is protein is 40%.

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Huh.

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And you'd have to eat a lot of protein- Sure … you know?

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Yeah, you have to eat a lot of it.

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And you should eat beans every day, not because they need protein,

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but because they're good for you in a bunch of different ways.

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Right.

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Anyway, um, and then they did a study on Americans.

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They said, "How many, how many Americans are protein deficient?" 3%.

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Sure, yeah.

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Yeah.

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So basically, if you're walking around, you get enough protein.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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But how many Americans are fiber deficient?

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And fiber only comes from plants.

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97% of Americans- Yeah

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don't get the minimum requirement for plants.

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I believe that.

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I believe that.

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So everybody should be eating like this.

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Sure, sure.

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You should eat this way so you don't get all the cancers

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and- Yeah, but I like tacos.

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It's hard.

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Uh, you can eat tacos.

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Just start eating beans and bean and- Yeah, it's not as good

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uh, potato tacos.

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It's not as good with beans and potatoes.

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The guy who's the cancer scientist, he said, "I'm going slow.

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It's really hard for me to give up eggs, but-" Yeah, eggs for

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sure … "I just want you to know." You don't wanna get these diseases.

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Or if you find out some of your friends have cancer, I'm gonna give you my number.

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All right.

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Contact me.

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Yeah.

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Um, well, the last question I ask, uh, my guests is I guess somewhat related

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to the health thing, life and death and all that, and that question is

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what do you think happens when you die?

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Nothing.

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It's just the end?

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Yeah.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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No kind of, uh, energy, spirit, consciousness, nothing lives on?

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Just That's what I think.

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Interesting.

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Yeah.

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Interesting.

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Well, I mean, I guess it puts, then you put more effort into,

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uh, making this life great, right?

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I mean, you know, if this is all there is, then, you know.

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Well, I don't think that way, but the reason you do this

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is not, is not to not die.

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You do this to not spend years being sick with cancer- Well, that's

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true as well, for sure, yeah, yeah

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and heart disease and stuff- Yeah … and overweight.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Well, maybe I'll add it to the yoga.

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Who knows?

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Who knows?

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Uh, Kevin Ahern, thank you so much for coming on the podcast.

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Appreciate you- Oh, thanks for having me … coming all the way over here and,

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uh- Yeah, yeah … yeah, appreciate you.

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Appreciate it.

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It's been a pleasure.

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Yeah, yeah.

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It's nice to know you, man.

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Thanks for sharing your story.

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And there you have it.

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That was my interview with Kevin Ahern.

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Thank you once again, Kevin, for coming over to my old apartment

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there in Roma Sur, and for telling me a little about your life.

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I've got an idea for you.

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So please do that because I would like w- help.

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So who wouldn't want help?

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Who doesn't want help?

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All of them

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All righty.

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And in honor of the midterm elections, which just happened in the United

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States of America, I will leave you, I will end this podcast with a quote

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from Frank Zappa, who said, "Politics is the entertainment division of the

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military industrial complex." Truth.

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I'll see you next week.

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Very good, Jeffrey

About the Podcast

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onefjef
Expat life in Mexico City: interviews and solo dispatches about language, culture, and what it really feels like to leave your life behind and move to CDMX.

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Jef Taylor

Jef Taylor is an editor, filmmaker, and reluctant grown-up. He hosts onefjef, where he talks to people (and sometimes himself) about work, purpose, and the strange ways life unfolds. Before podcasting, he spent years shaping other people’s stories—now he’s telling his own.