Episode 67
Sex, Hugs & Mexico City
Kevin Ahern has hosted sex parties in Berkeley, been to Burning Man fifteen times, and moved to Mexico for a woman he met in a dental office. These days, you might find him at a Mexico City punk club holding a sign offering free hugs.
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Transcript
I met this guy at Burning Man who was Cuban American, and
Speaker:he lived in Mormon country.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:I met him at his kissing booth.
Speaker:He built a kissing booth.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:And we started talking about how I give sex parties in San Francisco.
Speaker:Mm. Right, right.
Speaker:So we decided to give sex parties at Burning Man- Sure, why not?
Speaker:… and he got an old RV, ripped everything out except the bathroom- Okay
Speaker:and the driver's seat, and placed mattresses on it.
Speaker:And we were, we were giving sex parties there for a while.
Speaker:This is episode 67 of onefjef Episode 67.
Speaker:Episode 67
Speaker:Once again, my friends, hola de nuevo, mis amigos.
Speaker:¿Cómo estás?
Speaker:¿Está bien?
Speaker:I hope, as I always do, that you yourself are thriving.
Speaker:Whatever that means to you in this life, I hope that it is happening.
Speaker:I, unfortunately, am not thriving at the moment.
Speaker:I have a strange illness.
Speaker:For the last, like, five days, I've had this weird headache
Speaker:and more profound tinnitus or tinnitus, however you pronounce it.
Speaker:It should be pronounced tinnitus, ringing in the ears than I usually do.
Speaker:I normally have a little bit of tinnitus.
Speaker:Comes and goes.
Speaker:Too many Nine Inch Nails concerts when I was younger, I imagine.
Speaker:Anyway, the, the ringing was quite loud, and the headache was kind
Speaker:of concerning and also just this feeling of feeling not myself.
Speaker:I couldn't put a finger on it.
Speaker:It wasn't like I was sick, like a cold, but I just wasn't feeling myself.
Speaker:And it started to really worry me when I was in a yoga class yesterday, and
Speaker:the ringing really got quite loud, and the headache started to get quite worse.
Speaker:And I can attribute a lot of this to the fact that I was doing yoga
Speaker:and focusing on my body, so these feelings obviously became more intense.
Speaker:Nevertheless, it was a little scary.
Speaker:So I thought, "I have to go to the doctor at this point," which as an expat here
Speaker:in Mexico City, isn't as simple as it is if I was living in the United States.
Speaker:Fortunately, I have a Mexican girlfriend who's possibly one of the most generous
Speaker:and kind, wonderful human beings that I've ever met in my life, and she
Speaker:offered to take me to the doctor today.
Speaker:So last night, I found a doctor, like a GP, online fairly nearby, and I used
Speaker:his website to make an appointment.
Speaker:It was very easy, a, a lot like making an appointment with a doctor
Speaker:in the United States, to be honest.
Speaker:So I made an appointment for ten in the morning, and at ten this
Speaker:morning, we went to this doctor's office, and, uh, he was not there.
Speaker:So we waited for about 20 minutes, and then the secretary
Speaker:or the receptionist came in.
Speaker:Uh, Este asked her where the doctor was, and she said she didn't
Speaker:know, and she tried to call him.
Speaker:He didn't answer, so she tried to text him.
Speaker:He didn't respond, so after about a half an hour, we just left.
Speaker:I was like, "Well, screw this.
Speaker:Let's just leave.
Speaker:This is ridiculous." So instead, we just went to a pharmacy doctor, which
Speaker:I think I mentioned this before.
Speaker:Many of the pharmacies here in Mexico have a doctor attached to them, like a
Speaker:do- little doctor's office attached to the pharmacy, which is very convenient because
Speaker:you can just get your doctor appointment, and then he, they prescribe medications.
Speaker:You can go right into the pharmacy and get them.
Speaker:I'm a little skeptical of the quality of a doctor who works in a office attached to
Speaker:a pharmacy, but I needed to see a doctor.
Speaker:So we go to the pharmacy, we wait for about 10 minutes.
Speaker:You have to get a number or whatever.
Speaker:We go in, and this doctor, it's a woman who just retired from her practice.
Speaker:She's lovely.
Speaker:She's so charming and funny.
Speaker:I don't speak very much Spanish, but what I did understand seemed very charming.
Speaker:As Dee said, she was lovely.
Speaker:Checked me over, looked in my throat, said, "Oh, you have an infection." So
Speaker:she prescribed me some, uh, antibiotics and some other medication with, like,
Speaker:a decongestant or something in there.
Speaker:Then we went next door to the pharmacy, got the medications for I think it
Speaker:was 300 pesos, which is about $15 for two medications, and that was it.
Speaker:And now I'm taking the medication.
Speaker:And while I don't feel better quite yet, I feel like I will feel better tomorrow.
Speaker:Perhaps that's just my head telling me something that I want
Speaker:to happen, but this is what it is.
Speaker:But at the moment, my ears are still ringing, and my head still hurts a
Speaker:little bit, and I haven't done much today except for lie around and edit
Speaker:this podcast My guest in this episode is the last of the interviews that
Speaker:I got from posting on Facebook when I first got here to Mexico City.
Speaker:So that's exciting for me.
Speaker:I mean, not for you perhaps, but it does give you some context.
Speaker:This interview was recorded, I believe, in April of this year when
Speaker:I was still living in Roma Sur, and I was still relatively fresh.
Speaker:And this interview is with Kevin Ahern, and it's a very interesting interview.
Speaker:Kevin came to Mexico City to get some dental work done about three or four years
Speaker:ago, and he fell in love with the dentist and moved to Mexico City as a result.
Speaker:And the rest of his story is just as interesting and unique, so I think
Speaker:you're really gonna enjoy it, as I say with every interview that I release,
Speaker:but it's always true, so there you go.
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Speaker:And before I get into this conversation, a quick trigger warning.
Speaker:We do talk about sex parties and some other things that may not be
Speaker:appropriate for younger people.
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Speaker:Thank you for being here.
Speaker:Here's Kevin Ahern explaining how to pronounce his name.
Speaker:Everybody pronounces it Ahern Ahern, but it's pronounced Ahern But my dad had
Speaker:a business, and he said, "Let's change it," and he wrote it A-apostrophe,
Speaker:capital H-E-R-N, and pronounced it Ahern.
Speaker:So I grew up with Ahern, and that's how I pronounce it.
Speaker:Huh.
Speaker:But everybody else pronounces that Ahern.
Speaker:Well, I'll pronounce it properly.
Speaker:Uh, Kevin Ahern is here.
Speaker:I do not know Kevin Ahe- Ahern aside from our interaction
Speaker:on the, uh, Facebook, was it?
Speaker:Facebook.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So thanks for coming over, all the way over to, uh, the corner of Tonala
Speaker:y Aguascalientes to Big Blue House.
Speaker:So thanks for coming over.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Glad to be here.
Speaker:Sorry.
Speaker:I've had a weird day.
Speaker:Um, Kevin, how did you end up in Mexico City?
Speaker:Actually, it's a nice little story.
Speaker:Um, three years ago, I was living in Oakland, California- Okay … right next
Speaker:to Berkeley, and I needed a dentist.
Speaker:And, uh, I'm a traveler, so I decided to… I needed a lot of work done,
Speaker:so I decided to come to Mexico City- Right … to get it done.
Speaker:I needed about three weeks done.
Speaker:And, um, I, I looked for a dentist with 50 five-star reviews, and the closest
Speaker:one to me, I knocked on the door, and it turned out to be this beautiful
Speaker:woman with tattoos and piercings.
Speaker:Huh.
Speaker:My type of woman.
Speaker:And we were laughing together for 30 minutes.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And I wanted to find out if she was married, but I didn't wanna say that,
Speaker:so I said, "Do you have any kids?"
Speaker:And she said, "Nope, no kids, no boyfriend, just me and
Speaker:my dogs." She rescues dogs.
Speaker:Right, right, right.
Speaker:She had seven dogs.
Speaker:And then I made a joke.
Speaker:I said, "Will you marry me?" And, and she said, "Why not?" Uh, but then she
Speaker:became my girlfriend for two years.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:And, um, I moved down here, and my first tattoo, you can see it on my
Speaker:forearm here, is Por Que No- Mm-hmm
Speaker:which is why not in Spanish.
Speaker:Yeah, love it.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So did you get dental work done from her office?
Speaker:Did I get what?
Speaker:The dental work.
Speaker:You were going for dental work, weren't you?
Speaker:Oh, yeah.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:Yeah, I have terrible teeth.
Speaker:Yeah, me too.
Speaker:And, um, so I got three weeks then, but I s- she was my girlfriend
Speaker:for two years, and now she's not my girlfriend, but she's my good
Speaker:friend, and she's still my dentist.
Speaker:Oh, wow, how about that?
Speaker:How long ago did you meet?
Speaker:When was the, the meeting, the first meeting?
Speaker:Three years ago.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So two years my girlfriend, one year not my girlfriend.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And then you guys moved to Mexico?
Speaker:Or how'd you end up coming to Mexico?
Speaker:Well, I came here for a dentist So did you, you, you got the dental work done.
Speaker:Did you ever go back?
Speaker:Or did you go back and pack up and then you come back here?
Speaker:Uh, basically I've been living here for, for three years.
Speaker:Okay Yeah And what part of, uh, Mexico did you originally move to?
Speaker:To Mexico City?
Speaker:I moved to, uh, Centro.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:And what was it like?
Speaker:I mean, had you been to Mexico before?
Speaker:You said you're a traveler.
Speaker:Yeah, I'm a traveler.
Speaker:And actually, um, I've been to Mexico, like, when I was 23.
Speaker:Yeah I hitchhiked down here with some girl I met at Mardi Gras.
Speaker:Ah, that'll do it.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah And, uh, and then when I was about 40, I met a crazy Mexican.
Speaker:Mm. And, um, six weeks later she was pregnant, so I married her- Mm
Speaker:because I wanted to make sure she didn't run off with my kid.
Speaker:Right, right, right And, uh, so yeah, I've had a lot of experience in Mexico.
Speaker:Right, so this wasn't your first rodeo, as it were.
Speaker:Yeah Right.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Right Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:So you already kind of knew what to expect, right?
Speaker:You'd stayed- Kind of … here for a long period of time, right?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:The first time you came here, when, how old were you the first time?
Speaker:You remember the first time?
Speaker:I was, like, 23 or something like that.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:All right Yeah And where'd you go?
Speaker:What part of Mexico?
Speaker:Pfft.
Speaker:Don't know?
Speaker:You know what?
Speaker:Don't remember?
Speaker:I'm old.
Speaker:Well, so am I. And I was joking- You know, we're both getting- I was
Speaker:joking with my friend, uh, that I grew up with in high school, and,
Speaker:uh, we're both like, "Yeah, memory is not what it used to be," you know?
Speaker:Yeah, I, I feel the same way.
Speaker:So I don't know.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Uh, I've got a passport full of stamps from all over the world, and I'm like,
Speaker:"Wait, I was in the Dominican Republic? What? I don't remember it." Yeah, and
Speaker:they're getting rid of passport stamps- Yeah … so you won't have that anymore.
Speaker:That sucks.
Speaker:You know, they're g- not gonna stamp 'em anymore.
Speaker:They're phasing that out.
Speaker:Really?
Speaker:Which to me sucks, 'cause that's part of the fun is getting the stamps- That's
Speaker:true … you know, where you've been.
Speaker:Yeah All over the world?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I mean, I don't know.
Speaker:I just read it- Yeah … on the internet, so it has to be true, because everything-
Speaker:That's new to me … everything on the internet is true Mexico's got a
Speaker:system where they don't have a record of your entry stamps if you came
Speaker:over the border by land, but- Huh
Speaker:it's, so the only digital record they have is if you come in by the airport.
Speaker:Huh.
Speaker:So the best way to come in is by land.
Speaker:When was the first time you actually moved here to live for
Speaker:a significant period of time?
Speaker:That was the first time.
Speaker:Okay Other times it was just traveling.
Speaker:Just traveling through?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:Um, and so I guess the, the same questions, like, how,
Speaker:how was it adapting to Mexico?
Speaker:How was it?
Speaker:What was surprising?
Speaker:What, you know, w- uh, was hard, et cetera, et cetera?
Speaker:Hmm.
Speaker:I guess I don't think in those terms.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:You know, Mexican culture is different.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:I have this hobby.
Speaker:Uh, it's the thing that makes me the most happy.
Speaker:Every night I go for a run.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Uh, and I'm in Centro, and it's a beautiful neighborhood, and the
Speaker:most, the most photographed place in all of Mexico for Mexicans
Speaker:is the Palacio de Bellas Artes.
Speaker:Oh, right.
Speaker:Of course.
Speaker:It's a beautiful building.
Speaker:Of course.
Speaker:And so I run there, I run back, and on the way back there's a
Speaker:street called Walking Street.
Speaker:Hmm.
Speaker:Um, Madero.
Speaker:About a year ago I was in Zócalo, which is at the other end of the Walking Street.
Speaker:That's another historic center.
Speaker:And these people had these signs, "Free hugs," and they gave me one.
Speaker:Uh-huh.
Speaker:And I like hugs, and I forgot- Sure … about it for about nine months.
Speaker:But then a few months ago I started, I made my own signs and
Speaker:started hugging people on Madero.
Speaker:And it's the thing that makes me- Stole their business model … the most happy.
Speaker:And it's not just the hugs.
Speaker:People come up with this huge smile.
Speaker:I'm sure.
Speaker:I'm sure Like, this makes me happy.
Speaker:And one of the differences I noticed is people will come up with their kids
Speaker:just walking past, and I'll hunch down to the kids' level and show the sign,
Speaker:and Mexican people will s- send their little kid over, "Go hug the man."
Speaker:They won't even come up for a hug, but that would never happen
Speaker:in America, I don't think.
Speaker:No, no.
Speaker:You'd be in jail probably for some of that.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker:Well, it's a much more, um, affectionate and, uh, I, I mean, I always say it
Speaker:on, but the vibes are just better here.
Speaker:I agree.
Speaker:I agree.
Speaker:There's, people are so much nicer- And-
Speaker:and yeah.
Speaker:Yeah … and, like, people walk hand-in-hand- Mm-hmm … even
Speaker:though they're not romantic.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:They're just like they're with their friend or- Yeah … put their
Speaker:arm around each other and stuff.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:It's nice.
Speaker:I like that.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Well, I lived in Mexico, or in, uh, South Korea rather, like 30 years ago,
Speaker:and, you know, men would hold hands with men because homosexuality wasn't
Speaker:even a consideration there at the time-
Speaker:right?
Speaker:So it was like- Right.
Speaker:Right … um, but one time one of my directors at the school I was working at
Speaker:just started walking down the street and kind of grabbed my hand, and, you know,
Speaker:I let him do it for a little while, but, like, I thought about it and I was like,
Speaker:you know, the last person to hold my hand probably, man, was probably my father.
Speaker:Probably.
Speaker:So it's like there's now been two.
Speaker:You're the second.
Speaker:Right?
Speaker:That's not right.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Anyway, um, different strokes, different folks, as it were.
Speaker:Um, so how long have you been here?
Speaker:Do you feel like, all told, have you been here… Do you
Speaker:miss anything in the States?
Speaker:Do you go back a lot?
Speaker:Um, let's see Do you still got family in the States or anything?
Speaker:Yeah, I've got some brothers.
Speaker:And, um, I had money when I came here.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Although I had an accident, and I got $45,000 on it.
Speaker:And I'm, I, I'm good with giving things away, but I'm not good with saving money.
Speaker:Right, right, right.
Speaker:I understand.
Speaker:So, so it's all gone now.
Speaker:And, um, I don't think I wanna tell you the story of how I, I'm- Por que no?
Speaker:Por que no?
Speaker:… how I'm an illegal immigrant right now.
Speaker:Oh.
Speaker:But basically- Yeah … I'm overdue, and, uh, so I haven't
Speaker:been able to s- Oh, you overstayed?
Speaker:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:And I have a lawyer.
Speaker:I'm applying for permanent residency.
Speaker:Right, right, right.
Speaker:And we're, we're working on it.
Speaker:Um, so one of the things I miss, going back to the United States, is
Speaker:because my hearing is going bad- Mm-hmm
Speaker:it's nice to, uh… It's not always bad with, um, people from the United States.
Speaker:It's still- Right … bad with some, but with others I can hear them perfectly,
Speaker:and it's harder with somebody who speaks Spanish- Yeah … as a first language,
Speaker:and they've- Right … got an accent.
Speaker:It's hard for me- Right … to understand it.
Speaker:Do you speak Spanish?
Speaker:No.
Speaker:No?
Speaker:Not at all?
Speaker:No.
Speaker:Well, uh, yo hablo poquito español, pero entiendo malo.
Speaker:Si, si.
Speaker:I, I studied Spanish for an hour every day for three years at least,
Speaker:and, um, after that three years I could speak a little Spanish.
Speaker:I could talk about my work for five or 10 minutes, and I could tell
Speaker:the story of meeting my girlfriend.
Speaker:Oh, that, that's pretty good.
Speaker:And I couldn't understand one single sentence.
Speaker:Yeah, that's part of my problem right now, is that I have real trouble
Speaker:understanding what people say to me.
Speaker:Ah, yeah.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:So I've got a new plan now.
Speaker:And the new plan is 24 hours a day, think in Spanish, talk to people
Speaker:in Spanish, and, uh, and, uh, maybe in a year I'll understand Spanish.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:You're supposed to even change your phone language to Spanish.
Speaker:That's what they say you should do.
Speaker:There's a lot of things I've tried.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:That seems excessive to me And the thing is, I came up with this idea on
Speaker:January 8th of, and, and I thought, "That's a good idea." And I did it
Speaker:for about five days, then I completely forgot about it for two months.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Then it was March, and I did it again for four days, and I forgot about it.
Speaker:And recently I, I was like, "Fuck, I'm never gonna learn Spanish." Um,
Speaker:but I also did another thing where I said, "I need to hire somebody to just
Speaker:talk to me in Spanish- Yeah … who speaks English, and maybe pick up
Speaker:my, um, my skills at listening."
Speaker:And then, um, and when I did, then I remembered, "Oh yeah, 24 hours a day." So
Speaker:I'm on my fourth day of 24 hours a day.
Speaker:And hopefully- Except for right now, right … hopefully this time it'll work.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Right, right.
Speaker:Hopefully it'll work.
Speaker:I hope this isn't f- fucking it up because we're speaking in English
Speaker:now, so it's, you're missing an hour from the 24 hours a day.
Speaker:No, I like talking to people in English still, but- Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:I understand … the rest of the day try to think in Spanish.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And I need a new girlfriend.
Speaker:And I'm old.
Speaker:I'm old.
Speaker:I'm in my 70s.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Right, right.
Speaker:My girlfriend was 30.
Speaker:Oh, wow.
Speaker:32. Right, right.
Speaker:And, uh, beautiful, sexy, and she was, um, had a wonderful heart.
Speaker:Mm. And, uh, that's not gonna happen again.
Speaker:I was just a lucky man for- Well, you know, never, never say never So, and the
Speaker:older women don't speak Spanish very much.
Speaker:Or Eng- English.
Speaker:Or, or excuse me, they don't speak English very much.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:Well, never say never, my friend.
Speaker:Never say never.
Speaker:We'll see.
Speaker:Um, what's, uh, what's your favorite thing about living in Mexico?
Speaker:Hmm.
Speaker:Or one of the things.
Speaker:You don't have to give me the number one thing, right?
Speaker:Well, I like the warmth.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I like the touchy stuff.
Speaker:I like the, um- I like it that it's cheaper here- Okay … 'cause I get
Speaker:about 30,000 a year from my pension and my, and my Social Security.
Speaker:So that's not enough to live good in the United States- No … but
Speaker:I can live pretty good here.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker:For sure, yeah.
Speaker:What's the, what are the things that drive you the most crazy about Mexico?
Speaker:Let's see.
Speaker:I don't know that stuff drives me crazy about it, but, uh, I learned some things.
Speaker:I learned, like, sometimes people are late a lot.
Speaker:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker:Ahorita.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And, uh, I learned, um, there's a club that I go to.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:And I, I kinda recently learned this.
Speaker:So a friend told, told me about this club, and it's a punk metal club.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:Right, right.
Speaker:It was a very underground kind of place, and the surprising thing is, uh, these
Speaker:people are, are more likely there to meet somebody who speaks English- Hmm
Speaker:and is a nice person, is an interesting person, have a good conversation with
Speaker:them- Right … at that punk club than I would in one night there than
Speaker:I would in two months on the street.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So I go there for the people.
Speaker:When I was in, in the 1990s, I lived in a punk rock warehouse- Okay … in
Speaker:Oakland, and I learned how to slam dance, and I like all kinds of dance,
Speaker:but I don't go there for the dance.
Speaker:I go there for the people.
Speaker:And, uh, the last month or two, I've been holding up the hug signs, too.
Speaker:So yeah, you were talking about meeting people this way.
Speaker:I meet people all the time with those hug signs there.
Speaker:I'm sure.
Speaker:I'm sure.
Speaker:And, um, but people, uh, you know, people are very touchy.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:And a few weeks ago I found out, uh, because it happened twice in one night.
Speaker:It's like I hug somebody, and then I put my arm on 'em, and I go in
Speaker:for a conversation, and twice in one night, one guy says, "That's his
Speaker:girlfriend." And I thought, "Okay, that… Uh, yeah, whatever." All right.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:And then another guy got really mad at me, and people don't usually get mad at me.
Speaker:Sure.
Speaker:I'm a nice guy.
Speaker:He's like, "What are you doing touching my girlfriend like that?" So I learned.
Speaker:Now, when I meet girls there, I go, "Is this your boyfriend? Oh, where's
Speaker:your boyfriend?" And I start there.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:And then, uh, then deal with that.
Speaker:Always the m- But that's just me learning the culture, you know?
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Right, right.
Speaker:Always the… Yeah.
Speaker:I actually got kicked out of a place, um, about a year ago.
Speaker:It wasn't that place.
Speaker:I was just in some place, and I was drinking, and I'm talking to some
Speaker:girl, and I put my hand on her knee.
Speaker:And the next thing I know, security is coming, go, "Uh, sir," "you need
Speaker:to leave." And I'm thinking I'm just being a physical- Right, right, right
Speaker:person with Mexicans.
Speaker:But you gotta learn.
Speaker:I'm sitting there thinking, "It's so nice the way you can just touch people
Speaker:in Mexico." And that, and later that night… And two security guards come
Speaker:up, "Sir, you have to leave." Ah.
Speaker:So it didn't work out with the girl?
Speaker:What?
Speaker:It didn't work out with the girl then?
Speaker:Oh, well, the thing is, you know, my girlfriend was 40
Speaker:years younger than me- Mm
Speaker:and beautiful and had a wonderful heart and sexy, and now I have this,
Speaker:uh, idea that women that age are attracted to me, but they're not.
Speaker:I mean, handfuls probably are.
Speaker:I mean, the, everybody takes all different kinds, right?
Speaker:We'll see.
Speaker:You know?
Speaker:We'll see.
Speaker:Who knows?
Speaker:Who knows?
Speaker:I was a lucky man to have her for two years.
Speaker:People are like, "Why did you break up?" I go, "Look at this picture of her.
Speaker:Wonderful, sexy, wonderful heart.
Speaker:That's the wrong question.
Speaker:The question should be, how did I ever get so lucky that she was
Speaker:with me for two years?" Sure.
Speaker:Sure, sure.
Speaker:She was finished with it in a couple of years.
Speaker:Well, you got a good couple years out of it at least.
Speaker:I mean, that's- It was wonderful … better than, better
Speaker:than no years at all, right?
Speaker:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:I've been polyamorous most of my life.
Speaker:Oh, have you really?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:In what way?
Speaker:Like, you have more than one partner, or you're doing like, uh, you know, uh, sex
Speaker:clubs, so forth and so on, and- Yeah, I never had the… There's, like, different
Speaker:variations of sleeping with different people, and for me, it was just I was
Speaker:honest that I had different relationships.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And, um, uh, then there's swingers, and swingers are like, "We're together, but
Speaker:we also play with other people." Right.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And, uh, so that, that wasn't me.
Speaker:I was never like that.
Speaker:And, um, and when I lived in San Francisco- Um, uh, I knew a lot
Speaker:of people who wrote books about sexuality- Right … and, uh, wild
Speaker:clubs, and I, I, um, I actually gave sex parties in San Francisco.
Speaker:Oh, you hosted them?
Speaker:I hosted sex parties.
Speaker:What did you, what did you call them?
Speaker:What was- What was- Did, did they have a title?
Speaker:What were they called?
Speaker:Oh, different things.
Speaker:I forget Oh, that's okay I forget.
Speaker:But there was one when I was, when I was … U- UC Berkeley has really smart kids.
Speaker:Mm-hmm And I lived really close to it.
Speaker:S- supposedly one of the top 10 universities, and the only
Speaker:public university in the top 10.
Speaker:Mm. And I was walking down the street one day, uh, near Berkeley campus, and I was
Speaker:talking to this tall half-Asian student.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:And Berkeley has a thing where you can take … You can make up your
Speaker:own course, or a teacher can make up their own course, and you can
Speaker:get 20 units out of this- Right
Speaker:part of the university.
Speaker:Right And one of their courses was female sexuality.
Speaker:And, uh, so we're talking and I said, "Oh, I know the person
Speaker:who wrote that book." Right.
Speaker:And her eyes got big, and she was, you know, she was taking this female sexuality
Speaker:course, and so she was impressed.
Speaker:And she and I wound up giving what I call, uh, sex parties for college girls
Speaker:and their friends when I was in my 50s.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:Well done with that.
Speaker:And we called them tantra sexuality parties or something.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:You gotta dress it up a little bit.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Um, make it tantric adds, like, a level of, like, yoga and so forth, so it's
Speaker:not a- Yeah … just … Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:How many people would come to these parties?
Speaker:Uh, usually, uh, like, 30 or something like that.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And did you know them all, or was it just random people?
Speaker:Oh, no, no.
Speaker:We'd have flyers come to the- Oh, you'd have flyers up?
Speaker:Wow … come to the party.
Speaker:And would you have this at your house?
Speaker:Um, I had a house in, right near Berkeley, and I think I
Speaker:had one or two parties there.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:Um, and, um, also gave them at Burning Man.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:I met this guy at Burning Man who was Cuban American, and
Speaker:he lived in Mormon country.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:I met him at his kissing booth.
Speaker:He built a kissing booth.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:And we started talking about how I give sex parties in San Francisco.
Speaker:Mm. Right, right.
Speaker:And he got very interested, and what he was good at, he
Speaker:was good at fixing anything.
Speaker:So we decided to give sex parties at Burning Man.
Speaker:Sure, why not?
Speaker:And he, um, got an old RV, ripped everything out except the bathroom-
Speaker:Okay … and the driver's seat, and placed mattresses on it.
Speaker:And we were, we were giving sex parties there for a while.
Speaker:I've never been to a sex party.
Speaker:I'm just wondering, like, so people just show up, and then there's
Speaker:I, I'm assuming, like, mingling, maybe drinks for a while.
Speaker:Is there a certain point at which everybody, you're like, "Okay,
Speaker:now it's time for sex," or?
Speaker:No, it's not a certain point.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:It's like, first of all, if you're a man- Uh, you can't come unless
Speaker:you're accompanied by a woman Oh, okay Because otherwise it would be
Speaker:90 guys and- Right, right, right
Speaker:three women That's, that's valid, yeah Yeah, yeah You gotta bring a woman,
Speaker:yeah And, um, so people come in and they start looking at each other and
Speaker:hook up And so everybody comes clothed, but by the end of it, is, are most
Speaker:people not wearing clothes anymore?
Speaker:A lot of people.
Speaker:Yeah, most people.
Speaker:Right Yeah And how do you know when the party…
Speaker:I mean, I guess there's obvious… But how do you know when the
Speaker:party's over, as it were?
Speaker:Well, you, you set a time.
Speaker:It's like- Okay … doors open at 9:00, close at 2:00 or whatever.
Speaker:Huh.
Speaker:Huh.
Speaker:Did anything weird ever happen at one of these things that you remember?
Speaker:Anything, any kind of a crazy story from any of them?
Speaker:Uh, it doesn't seem weird to me, no Right, right, right No, no No, no babies that
Speaker:we know came out of these sex parties?
Speaker:No what?
Speaker:No babies No babies that we come, you know Who knows?
Speaker:You know, I think, uh, if I remember, it's, like, bring your own condoms
Speaker:and lube or whatever Lube Something like that Bring your own con- That,
Speaker:that should be the name of the thing.
Speaker:Bring your own condoms Yeah BYOC and L. Yeah And I had an interesting experience
Speaker:with, um, the parties with, that I gave with the, with the tall Asian
Speaker:student Uh-huh There's another thing in Berkeley where they have regular
Speaker:student housing, and then they have this group of, like, I don't know, 13
Speaker:or 15 student houses that are kinda run by their students All right So they're
Speaker:more alternative Right And she lived in the one that was the most alternative.
Speaker:It was called Lothlorien, and it had, um, uh, they ate vegetarian
Speaker:food Okay And I was a vegetarian.
Speaker:And it was like the hippie co-op, and they had a, a hot tub on the property, uh,
Speaker:where you could get naked on the property Right And, um, and I met a girl there.
Speaker:I was in my 50s, and I met a girl there who was a serious, uh, mathematics major,
Speaker:and she thought the guys her own age were not, not very impressive Right She became
Speaker:my- And you agreed, yes She became one of my- Right She became one of my lovers.
Speaker:And then the other thing is th- they had a rule that you didn't
Speaker:have to be a Berkeley student.
Speaker:You just had to be a student anywhere Oh, of course And at the time, I
Speaker:was a student getting a master's degree in nursing, so I was eligible.
Speaker:So I signed up to live there, and, um, and meanwhile, I lived at my
Speaker:own house, but I would stay there.
Speaker:And at the beginning of the year, uh, all the people in this, uh, hippie co-op house
Speaker:would choose their partners to share rooms with Okay And if you'd been there for
Speaker:three years, maybe you'd get your own room Right But there weren't that many rooms.
Speaker:Most people were sharing, and nobody wanted to be with me.
Speaker:And finally, uh, I was the last person picked by some guy, and, uh,
Speaker:I wasn't bothered by that, but he dropped out after a month So you got
Speaker:your own room So I had my own room.
Speaker:And, um, so this blonde mathematics major who's my girl Um, she says,
Speaker:uh, "Can we hang out tonight now in your room?" And it was, like, 2:00 in
Speaker:the morning or something like that.
Speaker:Mm. And I said, "Man, I gotta get up in five hours and do this stuff."
Speaker:And then she says, "Could I please just give you a blowjob?" Wow.
Speaker:And I'm like … And she was, her blowjobs were like, she was
Speaker:proud- Mm … of her blowjobs.
Speaker:Mm. I'm like, "Oh, okay. Yeah." Huh.
Speaker:So that's a good memory.
Speaker:How long did that one last, that relationship?
Speaker:How long, how long did that relationship last?
Speaker:How did you … How long … Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker:Um, like a year or something like that.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker:So you lived most of your life in the States, yeah?
Speaker:In California?
Speaker:Yeah, I never lived somewhere else- Right, until now … uh, oh, half my life in
Speaker:Chicago and half my life in California.
Speaker:Oh, okay.
Speaker:Right on.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Right on.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I grew up in Ohio.
Speaker:Yeah, but I never lived in another country until now.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:So I mean, it's a good political time to get out of the country, for sure,
Speaker:but are there things about the United States that you, uh, that you miss?
Speaker:Well, like you said, I miss, you know, I miss, uh, being able to understand
Speaker:people's English better- Sure, sure
Speaker:people who speak English.
Speaker:Yeah, that's a big one, yeah.
Speaker:Um, m- I'm not, I'm not feeling like I miss a lot of stuff.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Do you ever think you'll go back?
Speaker:Would I ever go back?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:You know, um, I don't think I could afford to live there the way I want to,
Speaker:but- I mean, that's the thing, right?
Speaker:I went to Burning Man 15 times.
Speaker:Oh, really?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:But back in the day or any recently?
Speaker:Uh- Like, do you go… Like, the new ones, I've heard it, they're not as
Speaker:good as it used to be, is what I'm told.
Speaker:Uh, mostly, mostly in the 2000s, like mostly in the last 25
Speaker:years- Okay … I went there.
Speaker:And, um, they've got a thing where some people show up in the
Speaker:desert a month before Burning Man.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And, uh, so I th- I thought I might go there for a month and, and just
Speaker:hang out at Burning Man for a while.
Speaker:Huh.
Speaker:In the desert?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:How'd that go?
Speaker:What?
Speaker:How'd it go?
Speaker:No, I, I thought I might do that.
Speaker:Oh, but you didn't do it?
Speaker:No, I haven't done it.
Speaker:Oh.
Speaker:I've been broke.
Speaker:I've been too broke, and also this thing where I'm technically an
Speaker:illegal immigrant, my, my lawyer says, "Don't leave the country.
Speaker:Don't, don't take a long bus trip." Right.
Speaker:"And of course, don't go to the airport, 'cause you'll get
Speaker:caught." So I'm waiting on that.
Speaker:And, um, but- I actually have to, I have some business I have to take
Speaker:care of in the United States, so I'm gonna go visit my brother and my old
Speaker:friend- All right … in Florida.
Speaker:So- Yeah
Speaker:we'll see what happens then.
Speaker:For sure.
Speaker:Why did you, why'd you overstay your visa?
Speaker:You just didn't get a chance to leave, or what happened?
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Well, I guess I can talk about this because nobody's gonna listen to this-
Speaker:I don't think that the- … all the way through just to find- … Mexican
Speaker:government's going to listen to this
Speaker:just to catch me.
Speaker:So- No, I don't think so … here's the story.
Speaker:About two years ago, I had ru- I had spent all my money.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:And you need to leave every six months, and, um, and I was
Speaker:not looking forward to this.
Speaker:I was planning on taking a bus for 13 hours to- Right … the tip of Texas.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Stay there for one day, take a bus 13 hours back.
Speaker:I was not happy about it, and I was supposed to leave on a Sunday.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:So I live in a hostel, and I meet this guy who's from Spain, but he,
Speaker:uh, teaches tantric sexuality in Guadalajara- Oh … for six years.
Speaker:Look at that.
Speaker:And he says… So we had a lot in common to talk about, and, uh, he said
Speaker:he was in Mexico City 'cause he had to deal with some immigration stuff.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So on Friday morning, he says t- the weekend that I'm supposed to leave
Speaker:on Sunday, he says to me, "Oh, okay, I gotta go take my ca- care of my
Speaker:immigration stuff." And I go, "Oh, so you're going to the immigration
Speaker:government building?" Mm-hmm.
Speaker:He goes, "No, I'm going to Starbucks." I go, "Starbucks?" He goes, "Yeah, I've
Speaker:been doing this for last few years.
Speaker:I go there, I meet a guy.
Speaker:I slip him my passport with 1,400 pesos.
Speaker:He comes back in an hour, and it's stamped." Uh-huh.
Speaker:Uh-huh.
Speaker:So I said, "Can I go, too?" And he, he said, "Let me check with him." He says,
Speaker:"Yeah, come on." So we go to Starbucks.
Speaker:This guy comes up.
Speaker:He s- he says, "I don't, I, I don't know what this guy looks like because it's not
Speaker:the same guy, but I'll recognize him."
Speaker:So he recognized him.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:And we slipped this guy our passports.
Speaker:He comes back in an hour, beautiful stamp, and then he opens his arms
Speaker:wide, and he goes, "Bienvenidos a Mexico. Welcome to Mexico." Right.
Speaker:Uh- I'm- So I'm illegal that way … right.
Speaker:So your concern, so the, e- but even the stamp that he gave you
Speaker:was, was, you've run that over.
Speaker:You know what I mean?
Speaker:Like, if you leave, they're gonna see your passport.
Speaker:Do you think they'll recognize the fake stamp?
Speaker:Well, that was a couple years ago.
Speaker:Oh, all right.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:And then I got a lawyer to apply for permanent residency.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:He's… So he just said, "Don't travel around a lot."
Speaker:Yeah, probably for the best.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Um, how much did you pay for the stamp?
Speaker:How much- $70 … wow It's a good deal.
Speaker:I don't wanna do that, of course, but I'm just saying.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:You know?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Maybe he'll advertise on the podcast.
Speaker:I overstayed my visa one time in Korea, and it was only
Speaker:by, like, a week and a half.
Speaker:Uh, but they took me into this, the r- you know, there's a room next to passport
Speaker:control where all the bad people go.
Speaker:I was in that room.
Speaker:Oh.
Speaker:Yeah, but they just asked me a bunch of questions and then said, "Go,
Speaker:go, go." So that was nice of them.
Speaker:I think I'm gonna, when I leave, I'm gonna pay a $50 fine, but I don't know- Probably
Speaker:… how I'm gonna get back in, so- Right … that's a question I'll figure out in June.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:An interesting conundrum really.
Speaker:Are you worried?
Speaker:No, no.
Speaker:I mean, I don't … What are they gonna do?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:They might just not let you come back, would be my concern.
Speaker:Yeah, and then maybe I'll do the Tijuana route or something like that- Yeah, yeah
Speaker:… where it's easier to get in that way.
Speaker:W- I'll figure it out later.
Speaker:There's- Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah, you'll figure it out.
Speaker:I'm gonna just try to fly back in and see if they go like, "Okay, you overstayed
Speaker:last time. Don't do it again." But- Right … if that doesn't work, I'll
Speaker:go through Tijuana or some land route.
Speaker:Or you can just lose your passport.
Speaker:Although, I'm sure they have a record of it.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Lose your- I don't know.
Speaker:Yeah, I don't know either.
Speaker:Anyway, do you wanna, uh, talk about your- My work?
Speaker:Your work, yeah.
Speaker:Tell me about your work.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So I'm retired, and all my life I've had projects to help people.
Speaker:Mm. So I was in the Philippines.
Speaker:I was trying to start a yoga center for poor people where they could go for free.
Speaker:For a few years I was teaching people a system where it's very simple,
Speaker:and I used it with my daughter.
Speaker:Um, you can teach a nine-month-old how to read.
Speaker:I waited until she was two because it was even simpler when she was two.
Speaker:Oh.
Speaker:By the time she was five, she could read at an eighth-grade level, and
Speaker:when she was 11, I, I enrolled her in a community college course, uh, when she
Speaker:was 11, um, which I always was proud of.
Speaker:Huh.
Speaker:And then she came to visit me, um, uh, last year, and she goes, "It was horrible.
Speaker:I was 11 years old around all these old people." So, but it's very easy.
Speaker:So I've always had these project.
Speaker:I sta- in Chicago, I guess it was, yeah, we started … Me and some friends started
Speaker:a alternative high school- Okay … where we got kids who were having problems
Speaker:in high school, and we got this, uh, nun principal from a Catholic school
Speaker:who gave us degrees from her school.
Speaker:Hmm.
Speaker:And we had a few kids.
Speaker:Right, right.
Speaker:And we … I did that for a few years.
Speaker:So my project now is I teach doctors and patients how to usually very
Speaker:quickly cure all kinds of diseases by eating a plant-based diet.
Speaker:Hmm.
Speaker:And, uh, basically, the way it works is if you eat a completely vegan,
Speaker:zero animal products, and low fat, so no oil, diet, it quickly cures,
Speaker:uh, if you've already had two strokes or two heart attacks or- Mm-hmm
Speaker:bypass surgeries, you never have another one for the rest of your life.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Um, if you have d- diabetes type 2, high blood pressure gets cured
Speaker:within a few days to a few weeks.
Speaker:It cures fibromyalgia.
Speaker:It cures arthritis.
Speaker:It has a huge effect on cancer, and, uh, it also cures about 20 other diseases:
Speaker:multiple sclerosis, lupus- Mm-hmm
Speaker:bronchial asthma, um- Uh, it improves your outcome for COPD, chronic
Speaker:obstructive- Mm … pulmonary disease.
Speaker:98 and 100% cure rate for colitis and Crohn's.
Speaker:Hmm.
Speaker:It makes your menopause better.
Speaker:It makes your PMS better.
Speaker:There's just all these d- there's like 20 different things.
Speaker:Oh, wow.
Speaker:I can't eat any nuts, so it's, vegan's a difficult thing because
Speaker:it's a lot of nuts, you know?
Speaker:You- … get a lot of protein from, you know, nuts and legumes.
Speaker:Actually, all plants have, uh, protein, carbohydrate, and fat in them in a mix.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:The only foods that don't have protein and carbohydrate and fat in
Speaker:them are oil, which is pure fat, and sugar, which is pure carbohydrate.
Speaker:Every other plant food is a mix.
Speaker:Mm. The percentage of calories from ordinary green lettuce
Speaker:that is protein is 40%.
Speaker:Huh.
Speaker:And you'd have to eat a lot of protein- Sure … you know?
Speaker:Yeah, you have to eat a lot of it.
Speaker:And you should eat beans every day, not because they need protein,
Speaker:but because they're good for you in a bunch of different ways.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Anyway, um, and then they did a study on Americans.
Speaker:They said, "How many, how many Americans are protein deficient?" 3%.
Speaker:Sure, yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So basically, if you're walking around, you get enough protein.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker:But how many Americans are fiber deficient?
Speaker:And fiber only comes from plants.
Speaker:97% of Americans- Yeah
Speaker:don't get the minimum requirement for plants.
Speaker:I believe that.
Speaker:I believe that.
Speaker:So everybody should be eating like this.
Speaker:Sure, sure.
Speaker:You should eat this way so you don't get all the cancers
Speaker:and- Yeah, but I like tacos.
Speaker:It's hard.
Speaker:Uh, you can eat tacos.
Speaker:Just start eating beans and bean and- Yeah, it's not as good
Speaker:uh, potato tacos.
Speaker:It's not as good with beans and potatoes.
Speaker:The guy who's the cancer scientist, he said, "I'm going slow.
Speaker:It's really hard for me to give up eggs, but-" Yeah, eggs for
Speaker:sure … "I just want you to know." You don't wanna get these diseases.
Speaker:Or if you find out some of your friends have cancer, I'm gonna give you my number.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:Contact me.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Um, well, the last question I ask, uh, my guests is I guess somewhat related
Speaker:to the health thing, life and death and all that, and that question is
Speaker:what do you think happens when you die?
Speaker:Nothing.
Speaker:It's just the end?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Really?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:No kind of, uh, energy, spirit, consciousness, nothing lives on?
Speaker:Just That's what I think.
Speaker:Interesting.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Interesting.
Speaker:Well, I mean, I guess it puts, then you put more effort into,
Speaker:uh, making this life great, right?
Speaker:I mean, you know, if this is all there is, then, you know.
Speaker:Well, I don't think that way, but the reason you do this
Speaker:is not, is not to not die.
Speaker:You do this to not spend years being sick with cancer- Well, that's
Speaker:true as well, for sure, yeah, yeah
Speaker:and heart disease and stuff- Yeah … and overweight.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Well, maybe I'll add it to the yoga.
Speaker:Who knows?
Speaker:Who knows?
Speaker:Uh, Kevin Ahern, thank you so much for coming on the podcast.
Speaker:Appreciate you- Oh, thanks for having me … coming all the way over here and,
Speaker:uh- Yeah, yeah … yeah, appreciate you.
Speaker:Appreciate it.
Speaker:It's been a pleasure.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:It's nice to know you, man.
Speaker:Thanks for sharing your story.
Speaker:And there you have it.
Speaker:That was my interview with Kevin Ahern.
Speaker:Thank you once again, Kevin, for coming over to my old apartment
Speaker:there in Roma Sur, and for telling me a little about your life.
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Speaker:again is 1-669-241-5882, believe you me, I will jump into that creative pool.
Speaker:I will jump in and swim around, for better or for worse.
Speaker:Anyway, finally, please do like, rate, subscribe, and review this
Speaker:podcast because while I don't know how exactly it does help, I am told by
Speaker:many, many people that it does help.
Speaker:So please do that because I would like w- help.
Speaker:So who wouldn't want help?
Speaker:Who doesn't want help?
Speaker:We all want help now and again, and I want help right now.
Speaker:And the way that help is gonna come is by you like, rating, subscribing,
Speaker:and reviewing this podcast on whatever platform you are listening on.
Speaker:Ideally, all of them.
Speaker:All of them.
Speaker:All of them
Speaker:All righty.
Speaker:And in honor of the midterm elections, which just happened in the United
Speaker:States of America, I will leave you, I will end this podcast with a quote
Speaker:from Frank Zappa, who said, "Politics is the entertainment division of the
Speaker:military industrial complex." Truth.
Speaker:I'll see you next week.
Speaker:Very good, Jeffrey
